helloooooooo, i'm a caaaaaar

[aftertherockets]

I've just been in a severe not-talking kind of mood lately.

Of note:

1. It's officially spring--the Navy boys have changed into their dress whites. Nevermind that most of them are only 18 or 19 years old. If I squint a little, they look older.

2. It's Megan's birthday today. She's been in Africa for over six months, and I still haven't sent her a letter. I'm officially the world's worst best friend.

3.
I don't know why I'm avoiding talking about the show lately. I think I'm in shut-down mode, I'm not letting myself get too excited about it now that it's getting better, in case I fall in love with it all over again and it either gets cancelled or starts to suck again. Plus, I'm still bitter that this season was so royally mishandled, and a few good eps isn't really making up for it.

That said, I'm sort of maybe possibly a little bit finally interested in who's behind the bus crash. I don't think for a minute that Veronica actually suspected Weevil--I think that was more about getting his guard up, about letting him know that she knows what he's about. (Tangent: I am, however, a little unsettled by her tacit approval of his indirect murder of Thumper. That's the second time this year she's just let someone get away with murder and I don't really understand it. Well, okay, Clarence Wiedman is really scary, but Weevil? She can handle Weevil. Is it okay as long as the person who dies "deserves" it? Wouldn't some people argue that Lilly "deserved" it?) Anyway, I don't know who I think it was, and I don't really care to untangle the mess of clues we've been given, but I don't think it's going to turn out to be what it seems. I don't think it was orchestrated for any petty or even logical reason, like Kendall wanting insurance money. This season is all about class warfare, and whether the intended target was the rich kids or the poor kids, it's the symbol that matters.

The Fitzpatricks are involved, but I think they're just the grunts. I don't know who's calling the shots (Woody? Lamb? Big Dick?), but I think this goes much deeper than just settling a grudge or taking out a witness or collecting insurance money.

But heh, I hope every 19th episode has Veronica investigating missing dogs. I really don't think that would get old. :)


4. July 31. Fiona Apple, Damien Rice, David Garza. I am so there.



ETA: Cliff, Shag, Marry. It's happening! /Michael Scott

Comments

[http://users.livejournal.com/_titania_/]

I'm so booooooooored. Please entertain me. You know how much you love to do that :-)

[evergleam83.livejournal.com]

Ummm. Your mom called.

We could play a game. (Two enter, one leaves. Or! Kill, Shag, Marry, that's always fun.) Or you could tell me about your week. We could share the talks of the week!

I'm tired. I haven't been sleeping much.

I got nothin'. Sorry. :p

[roxyoi301.livejournal.com]

Do not mock sharing the talks of the day. It is a not a mocking phrase. It is sincere and inquisative.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_titania_/]

We should play a game! But let's play one I've heard of before. Kill, Shag, Marry?

Anyway I could call you at work? We could pretend I'm someone important ;-)

I hear ya...last night I fell asleep on the floor. Yep, rather than dive into my bed only inches away, I fell alsepp on the hard floor. My laziness continues to astound me.

[roxyoi301.livejournal.com]

Asking for entertainment....isn't that a little demanding missy?

[http://users.livejournal.com/_titania_/]

Pfftt..whatever. Aren't you supposed to be sick?

[grass-stained.livejournal.com]

18 or 19 is legal. That is all that matters. ;)

[evergleam83.livejournal.com]

Heh. You know, that's what I said, but my friends don't seem to agree. :p

[grass-stained.livejournal.com]

Bah to them I say. ;)

[roxyoi301.livejournal.com]

dress whites!

[evergleam83.livejournal.com]

I saw a guy in B&N the other night and yeah. I'd forgotten, so it was a nice surprise. :)

[roxyoi301.livejournal.com]

It is always a nice suprise. especially when they have a nice ass.

[roxyoi301.livejournal.com]

You need to tell Nick you are sick and come watch Two Guys and a Girl with me. Be a Beacon Street Pizza All Star!

[evergleam83.livejournal.com]

Oh, that's right. Did you call out like a good little girl? :)

[roxyoi301.livejournal.com]

I'M SICK
*end of conversation*

[whisperwords.livejournal.com]

I am, however, a little unsettled by her tacit approval of his indirect murder of Thumper. That's the second time this year she's just let someone get away with murder and I don't really understand it. Well, okay, Clarence Wiedman is really scary, but Weevil? She can handle Weevil. Is it okay as long as the person who dies "deserves" it? Wouldn't some people argue that Lilly "deserved" it?

Well that's the thing about Veronica though: she's often way more black-and-white in her mind than she really should be, jumps to conclusions, and judges people almost instantly based on tiny pieces of information. I kind of lump her "letting people get away with murder" thing along with her jumping back and forth on her belief that Logan was innocent. I understand she wants to be sure to see every side of the story but sometimes I don't think she does. :\ And remember, when we get a "he deserves it," it's "deserves it" in Veronica's head, and she would ever, ever, ever think that Lilly deserved it.

[evergleam83.livejournal.com]

You have a point, and I don't necessarily disagree with it. Veronica doesn't think Lilly deserved to die, and thus the audience doesn't. The implication that she might have thought Thumper deserved to die is a specific character trait of Veronica's, just as accepting Weevil's hand in Thumper's death as The Way Things Are would be. But I wonder if that's something that will ever be addressed, because it is still a bit unsettling. What I mean, I guess, is I wonder if the show will ever question Veronica's shifting moral values in any sort of direct manner. I really hope they do.

[whisperwords.livejournal.com]

What I want to know is why nobody at school has even questioned why a high school student is independently investigating high-profile crimes. I mean, they know the Sheriff is a douchebag, and they know V's a PI, but still. My biggest problem with Veronica is not just that her morals are shifting, but she very clearly thinks that it's Her Way or the Highway -- if Veronica thinks it then it HAS TO BE TRUE, until she finds a better explanation, and then THAT is what she takes as 100% truth until she moves on and finds yet another, better explanation. In Veronica's head, she is never, ever wrong, and that kind of bugs me. Which is why, when she makes mistakes like the wig-shop "she's my sister!" thing, I get overly gleeful. :\

(yes Aster's mom has become a V Mars fan--amazing how house arrest (chemo) works that way....

[andesmusings.livejournal.com]

I beg to differ--Veronica took Weevill and the evidence into Sheriff Lamb--he blew her off--she asked Weevill to "try it her way"--the system failed her (as it so often does)--and Thumper killed Felix--eye for and eye--it is very old testament, but not inconsistant with Western moral values (and our legal system)--we don't have a death penalty for blackmail or sexual promiscuity--Lilly didn't deserve to die. Veronica isn't amoral--she is a teenager.

Re: (yes Aster's mom has become a V Mars fan--amazing how house arrest (chemo) works that way....

[evergleam83.livejournal.com]

Hee. I absolutely love that you're watching the show. :)

I don't think Veronica is amoral by any means or that her own morals aren't consistent with society or her age, I just find it interesting that she only chooses to exercise her morals when it fits with her current worldview. She barely hesitated to turn Logan in to the sheriff when she thought he may have killed Lilly, but she has just about the same amount of evidence that Weevil killed Thumper, and she's not going to do anything about it? It comes down to whether or not she thought that Thumper deserved to die, and whether he deserved justice for what happened to him.

Actually, that's what it's really about, is Veronica's relationship with justice and finding out the truth. She only wants to get to the truth when it fits inside her box of what things should be like.

Also, I don't think Lilly deserved to die, either. She didn't. But I don't think Thumper necessarily deserved it, though, at least not in the way it happened. I guess, maybe for Veronica, it doesn't matter whether the Fitzpatricks get him or the justice system does, so long as the guilty guy gets what's coming to him. And that fits everything we know about Veronica's character pretty well.

[mistakency.livejournal.com]

July 31. Fiona Apple, Damien Rice, David Garza.

OH MY GOD.

Thank you so much for posting about this show. I checked the summer schedule for WT a while ago, but this wasn't there yet, and...holy cow.

[evergleam83.livejournal.com]

I KNOW! It sounds like the singularly best. show. ever. :p I think tickets go on sale this weekend, so I was lucky I hit snooze on my radio alarm so many times this morning that I heard the DJ announce it. :)

[roxyoi301.livejournal.com]

New Cliff, Shag, Marry Thread

F&G: Sam, Bill, Neal

F&G: Daniel, Nick, Ken

[evergleam83.livejournal.com]

Hee. The freaks and the geeks!

Smoosh Marry Sam, shag Bill the Stud, kill Neal.

Shag Daniel, marry Nick, kill Ken. But I don't wanna have to do that. I like Ken a lot.

SFU: Nate, David, Rico. :)

[roxyoi301.livejournal.com]

Kill Rico, Shag David, Marry Nate

Hmmmmm, I'm running out of characters. let me think...